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More generational warfare

A thread discussing millennial female Christians ends up (surprise, surprise) with more than a few commenters taking gratuitous shots at the evil boomers. Whatever would people do without boomers to blame?

And the millennials have more defenders on that thread than boomers.

One commenter’s words: (but I am sure he is just joking, you see…)

“It may be unfair to some boomers”

There is no such thing as being unfair to boomers. In fact, being ‘unfair’ to them is a very good way to be actually fair with them.

Too bad nooses have gone out of style, because in a just world, we’d need millions.

I don’t know, maybe I’ve been too subtle and circumspect.

Every. Single. Boomer. Should. Be. Burned. Alive.

Huh, I feel better already.

I’ve read too many comments expressing what seems to be genuine loathing of boomers for me to laugh it off as wry humor. A lot of real feelings are camouflaged in the form of bitter humor.

The anti-boomer contingent never seems to acknowledge facts such as:

The largest voting bloc by age group that did not vote for the present regime in the last two presidential elections was boomers.

The largest group of voters, by age group, that voted FOR the present regime in  those same elections were millennials, with each age cohort voting more conservative with age.

Boomers are more conservative on racial issues — which, by the way, are supposed to be more relevant to alt-righters than others — than each successive generation. The younger, the more liberal. Boomers and the remnant of the even older generations are much more likely to oppose intermarriage (miscegeny), with the Gen Xers and millennials ever more liberal with each generation.

 

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Boomers are more negative on immigration, and likely to be immigration restrictionists, than are the younger generations, all of them, from Gen X on down.

By the way, the Brexit supporters were heavily skewed towards the older generations, boomers and older. Once they die, if the powers-that-be can delay another vote on it, the referendum will surely fail. The ruling classes know this, hence their delay on implementing the exit from the EU pending a future re-vote. The British millennials were having their own boomer bash-fest after the Brexit vote. And yet most elder-bashing American alt-righters  incongruously favor Brexit, though it was boomers and the older age groups that made the yes vote possible.

The fact that exceptions exist does not nullify the rule. Come on, don’t alt-righters cite that fact whenever someone tries to argue that ‘Not All [Minorities] Are Like That’? Then don’t try to argue that because you know of a millennial or two who is ‘Alt-right’ that the generalities are false. That dog won’t hunt.

I know a couple of millennials who vote Republican but who are politically correct and especially liberal on racial matters (mixing and intermarriage is good! Immigration is fine as long as the immigrants work hard and don’t blow us up.)

As to my statements about statistics on voting patterns across generations, and about attitudes based on polls and surveys, I’ve posted those links here before, and they can be found by those open-minded and curious enough to look it up. So I should not have to do the homework myself by posting links again, though I did provide links again above.  But by all means, don’t let facts or data interfere with your bias.

This generational war stuff is counterproductive. Why alienate a group that is on your side far more than the younger ones? No doubt some will say I am keeping it going on my side — still everybody is entitled to a defense, and nobody else is stepping up to say anything, so I take it on myself to do so. But I would love to stop writing about this issue, and unless the anti-boomers are willing to call a truce I probably will write about it again, if only because facts need to be mentioned, not merely feelings, which is all the other side has to go on.

As far as the boomers go, their many critics should be popping the champagne corks as boomers are dying every day. Be happy; you are getting your wish to be free of them, though I suspect many critics have boomer parents.  Daddy issues, anyone? But no doubt your world will be much improved when that generation dies off altogether, as you will then be living in a much more ‘diverse’ (read: nonwhite) nation, with voters who are on the average far more left-wing once the boomers’ votes are subtracted. That world will no doubt be superior. Right?

Like it or not, the older generations (boomers and the few ‘Greatests’ and ‘Silent Generation’ members) are the only living link to America as it once was, the real America, the (possibly) dead and gone America. Older people should be valued if only as they are the last living witnesses of what once was good and great about this country. Once the people remaining are people who never lived in the ‘real America’, and know it only from biased history books and unreliable popular culture (movies and TV) then there is little chance of ever restoring the best of what America used to be.

I often regret that I didn’t sit down with my elders, my grandparents and great-aunts and uncles, to learn all that I could about the world they grew up in. When we are young we don’t value these things enough. My elders were repositories of so much knowledge and information that is gone now, with their passing.

For those who are Christians, there is the commandment to ‘honor your father and your mother’. Today’s Christians have the deplorable habit of interpreting each commandment in the most narrow and literal way possible, so that honoring one’s father and mother means only the two people who conceived and gave you life, not the prior generations, or our elders generally. In the past, this commandment was taken as implying a wider application. The Book of Proverbs also has a few things to say about honoring age. Our culture, besotted with Youth, does the opposite; glorifies teens and 20-somethings and devalues old folk. But go ahead and despise the older folk and blame them for all that you haven’t done to save our world. You too will be old and despised in your turn, given the attitudes of the younger ones. What goes around, comes around, or as the Gen Xers and millennials say, ‘Karma’ will  catch up with you.

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7 thoughts on “More generational warfare

  1. The boomer-bashing thing is definitely getting very tiresome. The worst thing about it is that it’s used as an excuse – poor me, I can’t do anything about the way the world is going because of those horrible boomers so I’ll just stamp my feet and whine about them.

    It’s also used as an excuse for not thinking.

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  2. These people are of course being ridiculous. They like to imagine they and their clique of online friends are representative of their entire generation. In reality though polling as you point out and at least in my life personal experience says quite otherwise.

    I also tend to find the people who are devotees of the anti-Baby Boomer idea are the same crew that enjoy bashing evangelical Christians. They will correctly point out that evangelicals do have the highest levels of support for Israel and that this has contributed somewhat to our disastrous and expensive foreign adventurism. The problem though is they seem to believe that lower levels of support for Israel among American Catholics and the non-religious is evidence of these groups being more “red pilled” on the subject of Jews and more reactionary in general which is totally absurd. The reasons these groups have lower levels of support for Israel is because they are more opposed on some kind of liberal principle that the United States exercising military power around the world is oppressive to saintly brown people.

    The more liberal nature of the above two groups compared to evangelicals can be easily demonstrated by viewing the polling data for them on other subjects.

    White evangelicals are the group most opposed to interracial marriage.

    http://www.christianitytoday.com/gleanings/2011/june/opposition-to-interracial-marriage-lingers-among.html

    White evangelicals are the group most opposed to mass immigration, supportive of restriction and also the most likely to view immigration as a threat to the culture and traditions of the United States.

    http://www.prri.org/research/survey-americans-view-immigrants-want-immigration-reform-findings-2015-american-values-atlas/

    Also I find it curious that the rightwing atheists online feel its ok to bash the entirety of evangelical Christianity because of the support for #nevertrump among some high profile media personages yet they ignore that white evangelicals support Trump at far higher a rate than white American Catholics and the non-religious.

    http://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/catholics-siding-with-hillary-evangelicals-with-trump

    All this being said though while it does not appear at the moment that the younger generation has more traditional values than the older ones we all must hope that day soon arrives because if it doesn’t there is only one place this trend can end. Extinction.

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  3. These people are of course being ridiculous. They like to imagine they and their clique of online friends are representative of their entire generation. In reality though polling as you point out and at least in my life personal experience says quite otherwise.

    I also tend to find the people who are devotees of the anti-Baby Boomer idea are the same crew that enjoy bashing evangelical Christians. They will correctly point out that evangelicals do have the highest levels of support for Israel and that this has contributed somewhat to our disastrous and expensive foreign adventurism. The problem though is they seem to believe that lower levels of support for Israel among American Catholics and the non-religious is evidence of these groups being more “red pilled” on the subject of Jews and more reactionary in general which is totally absurd. The reasons these groups have lower levels of support for Israel is because they are more opposed on some kind of liberal principle that the United States exercising military power around the world is oppressive to saintly brown people.

    The more liberal nature of the above two groups compared to evangelicals can be easily demonstrated by viewing the polling data for them on other subjects.

    White evangelicals are the group most opposed to interracial marriage.

    White evangelicals are the group most opposed to mass immigration, supportive of restriction and also the most likely to view immigration as a threat to the culture and traditions of the United States.

    Also I find it curious that the right wing atheists online feel its ok to bash the entirety of evangelical Christianity because of the support for #nevertrump among some high profile media personages yet they ignore that white evangelicals support Trump at far higher a rate than white American Catholics and the non-religious.

    All this being said though while it does not appear at the moment that the younger generation has more traditional values than the older ones we all must hope that day soon arrives because if it doesn’t there is only one place this trend can end. Extinction.

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  4. On one of Vox Popoli’s anti-boomer rants, I left the comment “While you’re at it, why don’t you blame the 20th century.” which got no response. I tire of the boomer bashing it is old already. I’m not buying any of Vox Popoli’s books, reading his anti-boomer rants or read the comments.

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  5. The whole generation thing is nonsense anyway. If you were born any time from 1945 to 1964 you’re theoretically a Baby Boomer. In actual fact anyone born in the late 50s grew up in an entirely different world compared to someone born in the late 40s. They grew up in a different political climate and with a different popular culture.

    Most importantly they grew up in different economic circumstances. If you were born in 1945 you grew up in a world of full employment and unparalleled prosperity. If you were born in the late 50s you grew up in a world of economic insecurity, high unemployment and chronic financial crisis. The Oil Crisis and the subsequent economic meltdown changed everything.

    It’s also worth pointing out that just about everything for which Vox blames Boomers was actually set in motion by the previous generation.

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  6. Thanks, all. Given the amount of boomer-bashing that goes on on many blogs and forums I wasn’t sure whether I would take some flak for my opinions. I don’t expect the comments to just be an echo-chamber but sometimes people’s criticisms of the older generations are over-the-top. No generation is perfect, needless to say.

    dfordoom – yes, good point that much of the 60s destructive agenda was under way much earlier, going back to the ‘Old Left’ of the 30s, or farther if we care to trace it back. And many of the ‘leaders’ of the 60s New Left and the counterculture were people of the so-called ‘Silent Generation.’ Even people who symbolize the worst of the 60s like Timothy Leary or Abbie Hoffman, were Silent Generation members, and pied pipers. Incidentally Leary was supposed to have been an intelligence operative. ‘The Kids’ were led astray then but most did not become hippies or raving leftists; they lived traditional lives.
    Unfortunately the counterculture ideas kept seeping into our culture from the late 60s onward and every succeeding generation has adopted most of those ideas as part of their lifestyle, or supports them in some way. I would love to see people reject, wholesale, all that counterculture stuff.

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